Sunday, March 16, 2008
Bracketology Grades
Considering how closely people follow the projected brackets, I thought it'd be fun to see who ended up being the closest. I took the final predictions from the three big sites- ESPN (Lunardi), Sportsline (Parrish), SI (Mandel). Here's how they stacked up.
Lunardi was the only one of the three to guess the field perfectly, going 65/65. The other two each missed one. Parrish had Illinois St. in, and Oregon out; Mandel had Virginia Tech in, and Villanova out.
For me, the longer you looked at Illinois St.'s resume, the more obvious it became that they were not deserving. Their RPI is 33, which is quite good for a bubble team. They went 13-5 in MVC, a conference that has made a name for itself over the last few years, and reached the conference tournament final. They were also 2-5 against the RPI Top 50.
But a closer look reveals that there's really not much there. There was one very good team in the Valley this year- Drake. Illinois St. played them three times, and lost all three. Their two Top 50 wins were both against Creighton, 46th in the RPI and not exactly an elite team this season. They also have one terrible loss (Eastern Michigan, RPI #237), and a couple other bad ones (Northern Iowa, RPI #131, and Indiana St., RPI #128). At the end of the day, they didn't have any impressive wins, and had some bad losses, which I think canceled out their strong RPI.
Virginia Tech was pretty clearly undeserving, in my opinion. People were arguing for them because they almost beat UNC. This is not an acceptable argument. Oregon only lost to UCLA by 5; is that at the top of their resume? Of course not, because they have real wins. This is not the case for Virginia Tech, whose best win was against a pretty mediocre Miami squad. They were 1-7 against the Top 50, and their second best win was probably @Maryland. Not very impressive.
These guys don't only predict what teams will be in, of course- they also guess what seed each team will be. So, who was the best at that?
Somewhat surprisingly, it was SI's Mandel, whose average miss was only 0.63. Parrish was second, at 0.72, and Lunardi came in third at 0.77. If we use RMSE, to penalize more for big misses, Lunardi jumps ahead of Parrish, but Mandel still leads.
The most surprising seed was Oregon being a 9. Lunardi and Mandel both had them as a 12, and Parrish didn't even have them in the field. They'll face Mississippi St. in the first round.
Other surprising seeds: Kansas St. (11, expected to be an 8/9), Indiana (8, expected 5/6), Miami FL (7, expected 9/10), and Butler (7, expected 4/5). I was shocked by Indiana, and also Vanderbilt, who somehow got a 4 seed.
Related: Selection Sunday 2008 Part II [The Money Line Journal]
Lunardi was the only one of the three to guess the field perfectly, going 65/65. The other two each missed one. Parrish had Illinois St. in, and Oregon out; Mandel had Virginia Tech in, and Villanova out.
For me, the longer you looked at Illinois St.'s resume, the more obvious it became that they were not deserving. Their RPI is 33, which is quite good for a bubble team. They went 13-5 in MVC, a conference that has made a name for itself over the last few years, and reached the conference tournament final. They were also 2-5 against the RPI Top 50.
But a closer look reveals that there's really not much there. There was one very good team in the Valley this year- Drake. Illinois St. played them three times, and lost all three. Their two Top 50 wins were both against Creighton, 46th in the RPI and not exactly an elite team this season. They also have one terrible loss (Eastern Michigan, RPI #237), and a couple other bad ones (Northern Iowa, RPI #131, and Indiana St., RPI #128). At the end of the day, they didn't have any impressive wins, and had some bad losses, which I think canceled out their strong RPI.
Virginia Tech was pretty clearly undeserving, in my opinion. People were arguing for them because they almost beat UNC. This is not an acceptable argument. Oregon only lost to UCLA by 5; is that at the top of their resume? Of course not, because they have real wins. This is not the case for Virginia Tech, whose best win was against a pretty mediocre Miami squad. They were 1-7 against the Top 50, and their second best win was probably @Maryland. Not very impressive.
These guys don't only predict what teams will be in, of course- they also guess what seed each team will be. So, who was the best at that?
Somewhat surprisingly, it was SI's Mandel, whose average miss was only 0.63. Parrish was second, at 0.72, and Lunardi came in third at 0.77. If we use RMSE, to penalize more for big misses, Lunardi jumps ahead of Parrish, but Mandel still leads.
The most surprising seed was Oregon being a 9. Lunardi and Mandel both had them as a 12, and Parrish didn't even have them in the field. They'll face Mississippi St. in the first round.
Other surprising seeds: Kansas St. (11, expected to be an 8/9), Indiana (8, expected 5/6), Miami FL (7, expected 9/10), and Butler (7, expected 4/5). I was shocked by Indiana, and also Vanderbilt, who somehow got a 4 seed.
Related: Selection Sunday 2008 Part II [The Money Line Journal]
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6 comments:
This is the first time I've had to weigh in on what happened. Everyone is moaning about Virginia Tech, who I didn't think should have been in. I was pleasantly surprised Baylor made it. I'm still not happy Arizona made it, and I'm very iffy on Kentucky. I wish Illinois State made it, but there's no compelling evidence to support them. I think Bobby Knight is a waste for ESPN and dick Vitale looked very tired. Not a bad job overall and I don't think there's any need to expand the field
I think the committee did a very good job selecting the field, but not very well with the seeding. North Carolina, the supposed #1 overall, has a brutal region. Tennessee, who could have just as easily been a #1 themselves, should not be in the same region as the overall #1.
Vandy as a 4 is psychotic. I thought 6 was entirely reasonable.
I do love Xavier's draw. Texas has a bye to the Sweet 16. Clemson is looking good for the second weekend as well.
There is no need to expand the tournament. I really hope they don't do that.
The only reason to watch the myriad of Bracketology shows is if you enjoy watching the analysts contradict themselves. I could suggest a drinking game, but there'd be mass inebriation after they let Vitale or Bilas say their peace.
"RPI is useless. Blah blah blah."
"ACC #1 RPI conference! Why didn't they get more teams?!"
"Ha! Only 6 at-large bids to non-power conference schools!"
"Wah! [insert mid-major here] stole [insert BCS team here]'s bid! Expand the tournament!"
Maybe I'm wrong, but I could have sworn Lunardi had Villanova out early on Sunday. I think someone tipped him off and he changed his selections Sunday afternoon.
Somewhat along Mike S's comment:
Prior to the Big East final on Saturday night, the ESPN "experts" were weighing in, and Jay Bilas is working his way to John Kruk/Steve Phillips mode in the NCAA Hoops world. He admitted that "the numbers are nice" and that he "can appreciate them", but he picked Georgetown to win because "they are winners"... the team has "a bunch of winners"... and went on to call them winners about 4 more times, without giving any other kind of insight.
And as we all know... they were losers on that night.
Don't expand the field!
Why mess with the best post-season in all of sports?!?
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