Sunday, March 16, 2008
Selection Sunday Live-Blog
12:03am I would first like to direct everybody's attention to the unbelievable season that Wagner had. They were first in the country in "Luck". Their "Luck" was +.219; Tennessee, second in the country in this metric, clocks in at +.124. Their are 341 D1 teams; Wagner was 77% luckier than any of the other 340. This is incredible
12:07 Ignoring auto-bids, my attempt at "Bracketology" has 41 teams as currently in: Arkansas, Butler, BYU, Clemson, Connecticut, Davidson, Drake, Duke, Georgetown, Gonzaga, Indiana, Kansas, Kansas St., Kent St., Kentucky, Louisville, Marquette, Memphis, Miami FL, Michigan St., Mississippi St., Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Saint Mary's, St. Joseph's, Stanford, Temple, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M, UCLA, UNC, UNLV, USC, Vanderbilt, Washington St., West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Xavier.
12:11 16 teams not on this list have secured auto-bids. These teams are: American, Austin Peay, Belmont, Boise St., Coppin St., Cornell, George Mason, Mississippi Valley St., Mount St. Mary's, Oral Roberts, Portland St., San Diego, Siena, UMBC, Western Kentucky, and Winthrop. Two more champions, those of the Big West and Southland conferences, will fall into this category as well.
12:14 This leaves six bubble teams. My bubble consists of nine teams. Aram, from the esteemed Sports VU blog, has convinced me to drop Illinois St. slightly. The current order is: Baylor, South Alabama, Illinois St., Arizona, Ohio St., Villanova, CUT, Massachusetts, Virginia Tech, VCU. This may change throughout the day, as I further assess the teams. Any changes will be completely arbitrary.
12:50pm If I hear one more person say how impressive it is that the Tigers have Pudge Rodriguez hitting 8th, I am going to stab them. Bob Ryan and Mitch Albom both said this in the last two minutes on The Sports Reporters.
I am back, by the way. Brooklyn to Emory in 5 hours. Record time.
1:18 Lunardi just said that Virginia Tech is his last team in because of their performance yesterday.
Needless to say, I do not agree with this.
1:26 The bubble is a mess. It is a complete disaster. I have no idea who is going to get in.
1:29 Besides Lunardi, Parrish (Sportsline), and Mandel (SI), who else predicts the bracket?
1:52 I do not know what to make of Illinois St. They have a good RPI (33), were 13-5 in the Valley, and reached the final. They were 2-5 against the Top 50, but those two wins were both against Creighton, who is a) #48, and b) not very good.
1:59 I currently have the 41 teams listed above in, plus these 6: Baylor, South Alabama, Illinois St., Arizona, Villanova, and Ohio St.
I am reconsidering Oregon. Illinois St. and Ohio St. are my last two in right now, I think.
2:31 Some predictions for your perusal: Lozo, Lunardi, Parrish, Mandel, Sports VU, some Sportsline producer, Sheehan.
2:41 Rob points us to a table summarizing the brackets of pretty much everybody. It has not been updated yet today, but will be at 5:30 pm EST.
3:17 North Carolina defeats Clemson, 86-81. They will be a 1, obviously; the Tigers will likely be a 4/5.
3:29 Top 8 seeds (I don't know why I'm doing this to myself):
1: UNC, Memphis, UCLA, Kansas*
2: Tennessee, Texas*, Georgetown, Duke
3: Wisconsin*, Stanford, Xavier, Louisville
4: Pitt, Clemson, Drake, Connecticut
5: Washington St., Indiana, Butler, Notre Dame
6: Purdue, Vanderbilt, Michigan St., USC
7: Oklahoma, Marquette, Arkansas*, West Virginia
8: Kent St., Gonzaga, UNLV, BYU
3:39
9: Texas A&M, Saint Mary's, Davidson, Mississippi St.
10: Kansas St., Temple, Miami (FL), St. Joseph's
11: South Alabama, Kentucky, Baylor, Arizona
3:41 There are currently three at large spots beyond that. Villanova is one. If Illinois and Georgia win, the rest of the field will be occupied by auto bids.
3:43 Teams with an asterisk are playing right now, obviously.
4:01 Georgia is up 26-9 on Arkansas, which is completely insane.
4:03 Oregon is going to be my next team in. They will be in unless Georgia and Illinois are both victorious.
4:30 Blank brackets; not a PDF.
4:31 Arkansas has cut Georgia's lead to 10 at the half. Wisconsin has opened up a 12 point lead on Illinois, and Brandon Rush just hit a 3 to put Kansas up 6.
4:34 Coppin St. and Mount St. Mary's will play in the "opening round game". Poor guys.
4:38 Here is my final bubble. Between four and six of these teams will be in the field. South Alabama, Baylor, Arizona, Villanova, Oregon, Ohio St., Illinois St.
4:55 Georgia is now up 6 on Arkansas with 14:10 left. Wisconsin has opened up a 13-point lead on Illinois.
Kansas is up 1 on Texas with 3:35 remaining. If you are not watching that (ESPN), I suggest you do so.
5:13 Kansas wins, 84-74. Chalmers was brilliant, with 30 points on (approximately) 8/12 from 3. The top two lines of my bracket stay in tact.
5:15 Georgia's lead on Arkansas is now 5, with 5:20 to go. Okay, make that 7.
5:21 The magical run for Illinois ends, as Wisconsin wins, 61-48. This puts Oregon in.
5:26 Onions! Humphrey hits a 3 for Georgia, increasing the lead to 8 with 1:27 left.
5:38 Georgia wins. Incredible. If you'd bet the money lines on UGA in each of the four games, you would've ended up with 171:1 odds on them winning the tournament. You should've done that.
We get to open the presents in 20 minutes.
5:40
1: UNC, Memphis, UCLA, Kansas
2: Tennessee, Texas, Georgetown, Duke
3: Wisconsin, Stanford, Xavier, Louisville
4: Pitt, Clemson, Drake, Connecticut
5: Washington St., Indiana, Butler, Notre Dame
6: Purdue, Vanderbilt, Michigan St., USC
7: Oklahoma, Marquette West Virginia, Gonzaga
8: Kent St., UNLV, BYU, Texas A&M
9: Arkansas, Saint Mary's, Davidson, Mississippi St.
10: Kansas St., Temple, Miami (FL), St. Joseph's
11: South Alabama, Kentucky, Baylor, Arizona
12: Villanova, Oregon
5:44 The rest (auto bids, teams not listed above): American, Austin Peay, Belmont, Boise St., Coppin St., Cornell, CSU Fullerton, George Mason, Georgia, Mississippi Valley St., Mount St. Mary's, Oral Roberts, Portland St., San Diego, Siena, TX Arlington, UMBC, Western Kentucky, Winthrop.
5:54 I am going to sit here and, like an idiot, type out each of the seeds as they are announced.
6:00 UNC is #1 overall. East, I'm assuming.
6:01 UCLA is #1 in the West. KU is #1 in the Midwest. They are happy.
6:03 And Memphis is in the South, obviously. I guess I missed that one. Memphis-UCLA and UNC-KU would be the national semifinals, if the 1 seeds all reach the Final Four, which has never happened.
6:09 East:
1 North Carolina
16 Mt St Mary's/Coppin St.
8 Indiana (Eight!?)
9 Arkansas
5 Notre Dame
12 George Mason
4 Washington St.
13 Winthrop
6 Oklahoma
11 St. Joseph's
3 Louisville
14 Boise St.
7 Butler (ouch)
10 South Alabama
2 Tennessee
15 American
6:14 That region is pretty loaded. UNC, Tennessee, and Louisville? Indiana as an 8? The Midwest region is up next.
6:16 Midwest:
1 Kansas
16 Portland St.
8 UNLV
9 Kent St.
5 Clemson
12 Villanova (boom)
4 Vanderbilt (no freaking way)
13 Siena
6 USC
11 Kansas St.
3 Wisconsin
14 CS Fullerton
7 Gonzaga
10 Davidson
2 Georgetown
15 UMBC
6:20 Well that's the most compelling 6-11 game in the history of 6-11 games. Ra-tings.
6:21 Wow, that was a great call by David S. on the potential Oklahoma-Boise St. second round matchup.
6:24 South:
1 Memphis
16 Texas Arlington
8 Mississippi St.
9 Oregon (wow, a 9?)
5 Michigan St.
12 Temple
4 Pitt
13 Oral Roberts
6 Marquette
11 Kentucky
3 Stanford
14 Cornell
7 Miami FL
10 Saint Mary's
2 Texas
15 Austin Peay
6:29 Well, apparently Miami was not on the bubble.
6:30 Texas gets a bye to the Sweet 16, which is kind. Pitt does not have a bad draw either.
6:32 West:
1 UCLA
16 Mississippi Valley St.
8 BYU
9 Texas A&M
5 Drake
12 (dramatic pause) Western Kentucky...oh
4 Connecticut
13 San Diego
6 Purdue
11 Baylor
3 Xavier
14 Georgia
7 West Virginia
10 Arizona
2 Duke
15 Belmont
6:46 Well that went exactly as expect, which in itself is quite surprising.
6:47 Vitale's "thought" are coming up next on ESPN. I am so excited.
6:48 How do you justify the ACC only getting four teams? It's a crappy conference after hte first three teams, that's how they should justify it.
Packer is still stuck on this.
6:50 Ole Miss is "heartbroken"? Ole Miss is terrible, that's what they are.
6:51 Here we go with Vitale. This is disappointingly boring.
7:00 Best region: East (UNC, Tenny, 'Ville, Wash St., ND, Oklahoma, Butler, Indiana, Arkansas)
7:02 Worst region: West (UCLA, Duke, Xavier, Connecticut, Drake, Purdue, West Virginia, BYU, Texas A&M, Arizona)
A great draw for the Bruins. The West Virginia-Arizona first round game is very intriguing; the winner will give Duke a run for their money.
12:07 Ignoring auto-bids, my attempt at "Bracketology" has 41 teams as currently in: Arkansas, Butler, BYU, Clemson, Connecticut, Davidson, Drake, Duke, Georgetown, Gonzaga, Indiana, Kansas, Kansas St., Kent St., Kentucky, Louisville, Marquette, Memphis, Miami FL, Michigan St., Mississippi St., Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Saint Mary's, St. Joseph's, Stanford, Temple, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M, UCLA, UNC, UNLV, USC, Vanderbilt, Washington St., West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Xavier.
12:11 16 teams not on this list have secured auto-bids. These teams are: American, Austin Peay, Belmont, Boise St., Coppin St., Cornell, George Mason, Mississippi Valley St., Mount St. Mary's, Oral Roberts, Portland St., San Diego, Siena, UMBC, Western Kentucky, and Winthrop. Two more champions, those of the Big West and Southland conferences, will fall into this category as well.
12:14 This leaves six bubble teams. My bubble consists of nine teams. Aram, from the esteemed Sports VU blog, has convinced me to drop Illinois St. slightly. The current order is: Baylor, South Alabama, Illinois St., Arizona, Ohio St., Villanova, CUT, Massachusetts, Virginia Tech, VCU. This may change throughout the day, as I further assess the teams. Any changes will be completely arbitrary.
12:50pm If I hear one more person say how impressive it is that the Tigers have Pudge Rodriguez hitting 8th, I am going to stab them. Bob Ryan and Mitch Albom both said this in the last two minutes on The Sports Reporters.
I am back, by the way. Brooklyn to Emory in 5 hours. Record time.
1:18 Lunardi just said that Virginia Tech is his last team in because of their performance yesterday.
Needless to say, I do not agree with this.
1:26 The bubble is a mess. It is a complete disaster. I have no idea who is going to get in.
1:29 Besides Lunardi, Parrish (Sportsline), and Mandel (SI), who else predicts the bracket?
1:52 I do not know what to make of Illinois St. They have a good RPI (33), were 13-5 in the Valley, and reached the final. They were 2-5 against the Top 50, but those two wins were both against Creighton, who is a) #48, and b) not very good.
1:59 I currently have the 41 teams listed above in, plus these 6: Baylor, South Alabama, Illinois St., Arizona, Villanova, and Ohio St.
I am reconsidering Oregon. Illinois St. and Ohio St. are my last two in right now, I think.
2:31 Some predictions for your perusal: Lozo, Lunardi, Parrish, Mandel, Sports VU, some Sportsline producer, Sheehan.
2:41 Rob points us to a table summarizing the brackets of pretty much everybody. It has not been updated yet today, but will be at 5:30 pm EST.
3:17 North Carolina defeats Clemson, 86-81. They will be a 1, obviously; the Tigers will likely be a 4/5.
3:29 Top 8 seeds (I don't know why I'm doing this to myself):
1: UNC, Memphis, UCLA, Kansas*
2: Tennessee, Texas*, Georgetown, Duke
3: Wisconsin*, Stanford, Xavier, Louisville
4: Pitt, Clemson, Drake, Connecticut
5: Washington St., Indiana, Butler, Notre Dame
6: Purdue, Vanderbilt, Michigan St., USC
7: Oklahoma, Marquette, Arkansas*, West Virginia
8: Kent St., Gonzaga, UNLV, BYU
3:39
9: Texas A&M, Saint Mary's, Davidson, Mississippi St.
10: Kansas St., Temple, Miami (FL), St. Joseph's
11: South Alabama, Kentucky, Baylor, Arizona
3:41 There are currently three at large spots beyond that. Villanova is one. If Illinois and Georgia win, the rest of the field will be occupied by auto bids.
3:43 Teams with an asterisk are playing right now, obviously.
4:01 Georgia is up 26-9 on Arkansas, which is completely insane.
4:03 Oregon is going to be my next team in. They will be in unless Georgia and Illinois are both victorious.
4:30 Blank brackets; not a PDF.
4:31 Arkansas has cut Georgia's lead to 10 at the half. Wisconsin has opened up a 12 point lead on Illinois, and Brandon Rush just hit a 3 to put Kansas up 6.
4:34 Coppin St. and Mount St. Mary's will play in the "opening round game". Poor guys.
4:38 Here is my final bubble. Between four and six of these teams will be in the field. South Alabama, Baylor, Arizona, Villanova, Oregon, Ohio St., Illinois St.
4:55 Georgia is now up 6 on Arkansas with 14:10 left. Wisconsin has opened up a 13-point lead on Illinois.
Kansas is up 1 on Texas with 3:35 remaining. If you are not watching that (ESPN), I suggest you do so.
5:13 Kansas wins, 84-74. Chalmers was brilliant, with 30 points on (approximately) 8/12 from 3. The top two lines of my bracket stay in tact.
5:15 Georgia's lead on Arkansas is now 5, with 5:20 to go. Okay, make that 7.
5:21 The magical run for Illinois ends, as Wisconsin wins, 61-48. This puts Oregon in.
5:26 Onions! Humphrey hits a 3 for Georgia, increasing the lead to 8 with 1:27 left.
5:38 Georgia wins. Incredible. If you'd bet the money lines on UGA in each of the four games, you would've ended up with 171:1 odds on them winning the tournament. You should've done that.
We get to open the presents in 20 minutes.
5:40
1: UNC, Memphis, UCLA, Kansas
2: Tennessee, Texas, Georgetown, Duke
3: Wisconsin, Stanford, Xavier, Louisville
4: Pitt, Clemson, Drake, Connecticut
5: Washington St., Indiana, Butler, Notre Dame
6: Purdue, Vanderbilt, Michigan St., USC
7: Oklahoma, Marquette West Virginia, Gonzaga
8: Kent St., UNLV, BYU, Texas A&M
9: Arkansas, Saint Mary's, Davidson, Mississippi St.
10: Kansas St., Temple, Miami (FL), St. Joseph's
11: South Alabama, Kentucky, Baylor, Arizona
12: Villanova, Oregon
5:44 The rest (auto bids, teams not listed above): American, Austin Peay, Belmont, Boise St., Coppin St., Cornell, CSU Fullerton, George Mason, Georgia, Mississippi Valley St., Mount St. Mary's, Oral Roberts, Portland St., San Diego, Siena, TX Arlington, UMBC, Western Kentucky, Winthrop.
5:54 I am going to sit here and, like an idiot, type out each of the seeds as they are announced.
6:00 UNC is #1 overall. East, I'm assuming.
6:01 UCLA is #1 in the West. KU is #1 in the Midwest. They are happy.
6:03 And Memphis is in the South, obviously. I guess I missed that one. Memphis-UCLA and UNC-KU would be the national semifinals, if the 1 seeds all reach the Final Four, which has never happened.
6:09 East:
1 North Carolina
16 Mt St Mary's/Coppin St.
8 Indiana (Eight!?)
9 Arkansas
5 Notre Dame
12 George Mason
4 Washington St.
13 Winthrop
6 Oklahoma
11 St. Joseph's
3 Louisville
14 Boise St.
7 Butler (ouch)
10 South Alabama
2 Tennessee
15 American
6:14 That region is pretty loaded. UNC, Tennessee, and Louisville? Indiana as an 8? The Midwest region is up next.
6:16 Midwest:
1 Kansas
16 Portland St.
8 UNLV
9 Kent St.
5 Clemson
12 Villanova (boom)
4 Vanderbilt (no freaking way)
13 Siena
6 USC
11 Kansas St.
3 Wisconsin
14 CS Fullerton
7 Gonzaga
10 Davidson
2 Georgetown
15 UMBC
6:20 Well that's the most compelling 6-11 game in the history of 6-11 games. Ra-tings.
6:21 Wow, that was a great call by David S. on the potential Oklahoma-Boise St. second round matchup.
6:24 South:
1 Memphis
16 Texas Arlington
8 Mississippi St.
9 Oregon (wow, a 9?)
5 Michigan St.
12 Temple
4 Pitt
13 Oral Roberts
6 Marquette
11 Kentucky
3 Stanford
14 Cornell
7 Miami FL
10 Saint Mary's
2 Texas
15 Austin Peay
6:29 Well, apparently Miami was not on the bubble.
6:30 Texas gets a bye to the Sweet 16, which is kind. Pitt does not have a bad draw either.
6:32 West:
1 UCLA
16 Mississippi Valley St.
8 BYU
9 Texas A&M
5 Drake
12 (dramatic pause) Western Kentucky...oh
4 Connecticut
13 San Diego
6 Purdue
11 Baylor
3 Xavier
14 Georgia
7 West Virginia
10 Arizona
2 Duke
15 Belmont
6:46 Well that went exactly as expect, which in itself is quite surprising.
6:47 Vitale's "thought" are coming up next on ESPN. I am so excited.
6:48 How do you justify the ACC only getting four teams? It's a crappy conference after hte first three teams, that's how they should justify it.
Packer is still stuck on this.
6:50 Ole Miss is "heartbroken"? Ole Miss is terrible, that's what they are.
6:51 Here we go with Vitale. This is disappointingly boring.
7:00 Best region: East (UNC, Tenny, 'Ville, Wash St., ND, Oklahoma, Butler, Indiana, Arkansas)
7:02 Worst region: West (UCLA, Duke, Xavier, Connecticut, Drake, Purdue, West Virginia, BYU, Texas A&M, Arizona)
A great draw for the Bruins. The West Virginia-Arizona first round game is very intriguing; the winner will give Duke a run for their money.
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I am still confused as to why Villanova gets no respect. People in the media were proclaiming the Cuse/Nova winner as "In". Because of the constant love that cuse gets, if they had won the game they would be called a "lock" by many. Having Ohio St., South Alabama and Illinois St. ahead of Villanova is a crime. I hate how Joe Lunardi sets the tone for others to make modified predictions off of his outline. Lunardi wont even mention Nova whenever he gets TV time. Hopefully the selection committee sees this differently in 17 hours.
ReplyDeleteI really love how so many people think writers have a personal vendetta against their teams. Have you looked at South Alabama's resume? Even though they play crappy teams all year, they did not lose to any teams as bad as Rutgers or DePaul.
ReplyDeleteUSA and Baylor have to be in, but I still might change teams in the middle of the bubble.
I hope the selection committee sets up a possible 2nd-round confrontation between Boise St. and Oklahoma. Maybe with Boise St. as a 14 and Oklahoma being bumped up to the 6 line because of bracketing constraints...
ReplyDeleteI posted this over at ML as well...
ReplyDeleteI'm relatively new to this, and made my first conference tourney futures bet this year on Clemson at +1000, which gives me a chance to hedge today. I put 1% of my bankroll on Clemson, so I was thinking I'd go with 5% on UNC at -250. That was I make 1% profit if UNC wins, and 5% if Clemson wins. I guess my other options are
A) going with 7.85% on UNC so that I net ~2.15% no matter who wins
B) going with 9% on UNC so I make 2.6% w/ a UNC win and 1% w/ a Clemson win
What's your strategy here, and what factors do you take into consideration?
As bad as Dickie V is, Mike Patrick is even worse. He is so over the top with fake enthusiasm I'm about to puke. I'm going to hit my mute button and watch the ACC Championship without any sound.
ReplyDeleteI have multiple TVs in my living room and I chose to watch the Celebrity Rehab Reunion over listening to Patrick and Vitale. I feel your pain.
ReplyDeleteLet's toss South Carolina into the tourney along with Va Tech. They almost beat Tennessee on Friday...
ReplyDeleteYesterday during the A-10 final on the NajehDavenport, some guy named Mark (the color guy? i have no clue) listed his last 4 in the tournament. They were: Temple, UMass, Dayton, and Ole Miss.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure whether this was for the 2008 NCAA Tournament or next year's unannounced A-10/SEC tournament.
It is also not confirmed whether the A-10 commissioner's first name is Mark. That could also explain it.
Also, here's a projection grid that averages 50 or so projections from various people:
ReplyDeletehttp://bracketproject.atspace.com/comparison.htm
i don't think i can hotlink it.
Jacob, assuming Georgia wins, where do you seed them? And what about Arkansas? Aram has them ahead of Vandy, but I'm not so sure.
ReplyDeleteMy guess is that Georgia would be a 13.
ReplyDeleteArkansas would probably be down to an 8, although I suppose I'd have to figure out who moves up.
David, you are a warlock. Everything is lined up for a Boise State/Oklahoma second rounder. Nice work.
ReplyDeleteHow about Butler getting a seven seed and a first round game against South Alabama in Birmingham? They can't be happy.
Is that (boom) the sound of Clemson blowing out Villanova?
ReplyDeleteThe committee has done an awful job so far. I knew this would happen.
ReplyDeleteCarolina got a MUCH tougher draw than Kansas. So much for being the #1 overall seed. Their second round game will be no picnic either way.
That was not the intention but yeah, probably.
ReplyDelete(That last one was directed at anon).
ReplyDeleteUh, ML- are you complaining?
Yes, but I don't know why. Kansas' draw is really, really nice. I might do alright with their future after all. I just wish the committee would take seeding more seriously.
ReplyDeleteDon't sleep on Marquette. James can shut down DJ.
ReplyDelete