Wednesday, October 15, 2008

NFL Survivor: Week 7

Last week:
Washington: L, 19-17
Minnesota: W, 12-10
New Orleans: W, 34-3
Philadelphia: W, 40-26
Chicago: L, 22-20

Pretty absurd- over the last four weeks, the blog's picks are 4-0, having won by a grand total of 17 points. Thanks to losses by the Redskins, Bears, and Giants, 55% of the ESPN contestants were eliminated in Week 6, and we're now down to 10,116. If 56.7% are eliminated each week from here on out, there will be just one entry left after Week 17.

Teams used (LVSC rank): Philly (8), Tampa (11), NY Giants (T1), Jacksonville (7), Dallas (13, without Romo), Minnesota (15).

Best five teams left: San Diego (T1), Pittsburgh (3), Indianapolis (T4), Washington (T4), Tennessee (6).

Here are this week's most popular ESPN selections:

Two of the top three are out the window, having already used the Giants and Cowboys.

Tennessee (LVSC #6, @Kansas City)

Despite being on the road, the Titans are favored by nine, and the action is pretty much split. We try to avoid road teams, but this is a pretty good spot; future possibilities for the Titans are when they play @Detroit in Week 13, and host the Browns the next week.

Pittsburgh (LVSC #3, @Cincinnati)


A surprisingly large spread (PIT -9.5), even with the Steelers coming off a bye. The Bengals aren't good, but the two teams' respective LVSC ranks would indicate a line closer to seven. It's not like the linesmakers don't know that though, and Cincinnati is, not surprisingly, a pretty public dog. These teams play in Pittsburgh five weeks from now, so that will obviously be a much better option.

Houston (LVSC #23, vs. Detroit)

How bad are the Lions? They're getting 9.5 points against the Texans, who aren't one of the 20 best teams in the league. If you're in a very deep pool--like one where you have to take multiple teams towards the end of the year--then this is probably the way to go.

NY Jets (LVSC #18, @ Oakland)
San Diego (LVSC #1, @ Buffalo)


These are just such bad ideas, I'm not even going to bother. The Jets are favored by three, and are absurdly public; the Chargers are favored by one whole point. No.

Washington (LVSC #4, vs. Cleveland)

A lot changes in a week, huh. If this game was played seven days ago, the Redskins would've been favored by 10; this week, they're laying just seven points. The LVSC numbers still indicate a spread of 9.8 however, and the majority of the action is coming in on the Browns, so it's pretty clear that this line was significantly influenced by last week's events. The Redskins travel to Detroit next week; if they beat Cleveland, that line is bound to be higher than this one.

Every week, I have no idea who I'm going to take when I start writing this post, and have convinced myself of one team by the end. That's not true this week. It comes down to the Texans and Redskins.

There should be five lines of over a TD next week - PHI v. ATL, WAS @ DET, NE v. STL, NYJ v. KC, and JAX v. CLE. I've already used Philly and Jacksonville. But the Patriots and Jets will both be decent options, so not having Washington next week wouldn't be the end of the world. They have a pretty tough schedule after that until the last few weeks, when they play @CIN and @SF. Those are good, but not great spots.

I keep coming back to the fact that the Texans aren't nearly as good as the Redskins, but I need to stop doing that, because it just doesn't matter. Washington is currently -9 (+111) at Pinnacle (it's changed since I wrote their blurb last night; after considering the juice, the difference between 7 and 9 is significant, but not huge), while the Texans are -9.5 (-106). With neither team being particularly public at all, there's no reason to think Houston doesn't have a better chance of winning on Sunday. Since the Redskins are also significantly more valuable to me going forward, I'm going with the Texans.

28 comments:

Michael said...

I have no real interest in picking against the Browns after watching them dismantle the Giants last week. Color me spooked. If they beat the Browns easily, then there are plenty of spots to use them in the future.

Like you, I'm taking the Titans this week. According to FO, the Titans have the second-best defense in the league (-30.5% Defense DVOA) vs. the Chiefs' league-worst offense (-38.2% Offense DVOA). I'm breaking the no-away-teams rule this week and trusting the Titans to thoroughly embarrass the Chiefs.

The spread on the TB/SEA game is tempting, too. Any thoughts about that one?

McHale said...

I've used almost the exact same teams as you except for week 1 and am without the Patriots. Unlike you, almost my entire league has been knocked out. There are only 3 teams left. Does that make Washington a safer pick this week, since my contest shouldn't last as long? Or should I still go with Houston?

Vegas Watch said...

"Like you, I'm taking the Titans this week."

I'll get to the other questions in a minute, but I just wanted to make it clear that I'm taking the Texans, not the Titans. The blurbs are just written in the order they appear in the "who-picked-whom"?

JBD said...

Yeah after getting bounced in my main pool I'm focusing on my 1/3 share of a ridiculously deep pool that I have no shot at winning. We have to pick 2 teams this week. Surprised that TB isn't getting more love. We're going with TB and Hou.

Vegas Watch said...

Yeah, I don't know why nobody is using TB either. I'd definitely be on them if I hadn't used them already.

McHale, unless you can make an argument that Washington is more likely to win this week than Houston--and I can't--I'd go with the Texans.

JBD said...

I literally scanned that list 5 times thinking I was missing them...are they really not on there? And Seattle is?

Vegas Watch said...

It's very odd, I had the same reaction.

John said...

Tampa Bay is even on the front page of the contest, as they're ESPN's choice for the week!

JBD said...

Well considering the percentages add up to 86.86 I'm assuming the 13.14% missing must have TB.

Vegas Watch said...

That's possible, but most weeks it doesn't add up.

Anonymous said...

I have Houston, TB, and Tenn left... Who do you guys think I should go with?

Vegas watch- good looks putting this thing out every week.

Vegas Watch said...

I'd go with Tampa there, Anon.

Lionheart007 said...

Hey Vegas,
I have Tampa and Houston left...
I keep going back and fourth between Houston and Tampa Bay for this week. Can't make up my mind! If you had Tampa still remaining, would u take them over the Texans, which u picked this week...?

Vegas Watch said...

Yes.

Lionheart007 said...

My thinking was that Seattle is still a much more dangerous team than Detroit is right now. Detroit could be headed to 0-16...

My only worry is Matt Schuab and his INT'S he keeps throwing almost every game... Just flipped a coin twice and it also said just Take Tampa since I did not use them yet...

Anonymous said...

I can use NYG, Pitt, TB, Hou, Wash or Tenn

35% of pool on TB
25% on Hou
15% on NYG
10% on Pitt
8% on Tenn
4% on NYG

Looking at the pot odds, I would obviously benefit from staying away TB or Hou, all things being equal.

Please rank these 6 teams.

I was thinking of saving NYG for week 11 against Balt, and Pitt for week 12 against Cincy; but if Sea and Det win this week there won't be a week 11 or 12!

Anonymous said...

Oh, I have 2 entries left, so I need best 2 teams taking "pot odds" into account.

Obviously this is the last good week to use either TB or Houston as far as Home games go. But the whole pool is on those 2. I initially picked those 2 before everyone else did as well. now, i feel like switching to NYG and either Pitt, TN or Wash, and just rooting for Sea and Det.

Vegas Watch said...

You listed the Giants twice. I think you meant the Redskins for one of them.

NYG
TB
PIT
WAS
HOU
TEN

Anonymous said...

Yes, I did mean the redskins.

One of my entries has used
Philly
Dallas
Sea
Jax
Caro
Minny

If I use TB here, I can save Giants over Balt for week 11. If I use NYG here, I will have TB over Minny in week 11....which makes more sense.

I can't use Caro or Philly in week 11.

Do you personally feel that Buff over Cleve, or SF over Sea are viable alternatives to feel good about in week 11 to be worth burning NYG here instead of TB??

Anonymous said...

Should have been a question, not a statement in last post as in

"Which makes more sense?"

Anonymous said...

correction: SF over ST L in week 11-

Vegas Watch said...

Save the Giants. The rest of those Week 11 alternatives are awful.

Anonymous said...

My other entry has used:

NE
AZ
NYG
PGH
Caro
Minny

This entry would really benefit if I use either Wash or Tenn, but I can't go against a home dog in Arrowhead off a bye, as well as a shutout loss, can I?

Washington should be the ballsy play, coupled with the Giants in my other entry, I think. That way i am on neither TB or Hou.

My only fear of Wash is that they are not explosive enough on offense to make me feel like they can get any separation over Cleve. It just feels like a FG game decided on turnovers and who has the ball last. It has the makings of a pure painful sweat job. Still, a parlay survivor pool ticket of NYG, & Wash with only 20% of the pool with me, opposing the public with HOU and TB comprising 60% of the survivors. I can state with certainty that TB coupled with Houston is not 3 times safer than NYG coupled with Wash. especially since I will never need Wash ever again. my only risk is week 11 if NYG survives this week. Your thoughts, Vegas Watch??

is it too early to go for the jugular?

Should I just do NYG and TB?

Anonymous said...

OK, if I save the giants in the first entry, which I agree with then I should use TB in that entry.

If I use TB in that entry, who should I use in entry # 2 which can not use either Pgh or NYG?

Vegas Watch said...

I gather you don't want to take the Bucs in both? Because I'd use them in the second one, too.

If not, I'd go with Houston.

Anonymous said...

Heck no I don't want to double down yet! My stomach would be in my throat watching Seneca Wallace add a spark to the seahawks on Sunday night. Seattle owns TB.. Won last 5. I am nervous enough about TB off a division win blowout.

I initally entered the TB/Hou combo....but I stand to gain absolutely nothing if they both win....everyone else is doing the same thing....so If they both win, then the herd just moves on to NE or Jets next week, Chicago in week 9, SD or Jets in week 10, etc....Do you really believe both Hou and TB will win? Detroit could beat Hou....everyone has been making fun of Orlovsky all week. Hou could be overconfident....It really smells...

Hey, Indy plays Hou in week 11....i could use the G-Men and still have Indy in week 11. Hate the Indy play though, cos Houston will really want that game after 2 weeks ago, and would rather just save Indy for detroit...


The ballsy play is NYG entry 1; Wash entry 2; figure out week 11 in week 11, and root against my inital picks of TB entry 1, Hou entry 2!

Anonymous said...

I settled on NYG and TB.
NYG actually scares me the most. SF puts enough points up to win any game. I remember maybe 4-5 yrs ago they were 11 pt dogs at the meadowlands and crushed the g-men. Oh well. what will be, will be. Too many people on Houston,a and until Detroit gets their win I am staying away. Maybe Houston got their win last week and are satisfied. Just seen too many Orlovsky blooper videos to bet against detroit this week.

Anonymous said...

switched from tb to washington at the last second last night before the 8 PM deadline. Well, it was a sweat, but now I get to root like mad for the Seahawks!

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