Monday, April 28, 2008

A Post-Draft Deadline Look at the Big East

The deadline to declare for the draft was yesterday. There are still a lot of moving parts, since players have until June 16th to withdraw their name from consideration. We can make some reasonable assumptions though- most of of the top prospects have hired agents, and it's unlikely that guys like D.J. Augustin and Russell Westbrook will be returning. A full list of who has declared can be found here.

Since I couldn't care less about the NBA (although I do enjoy the draft), I'm primarily concerned with the guys that are coming back. The notables on this list include Earl Clark, Darren Collison, Stephen Curry, Blake Griffin, Hansbrough, Hasheem Thabeet, Terrence Williams, and Sam Young. The thing that jumped out at me is that the Big East is going to be very, very good next year. They dominate the previous list, and they won't lose as much to graduation as other conferences. A look at some of the top contenders:

Connecticut (20:1 at Sportsbook)
Declared for draft: Nobody
Graduated: Nobody

UConn would be getting all kinds of hype if Price hadn't gotten hurt in the first round. They'd be a Sweet 16 team (at least) with almost everybody coming back (Wiggins transferred). As it happened, they're an afterthought with a rehabbing point guard. If Price makes a full recovery, with the ever-improving Thabeet returning, this should be a top 5 team.

Louisville (20:1)
Declared for draft: Derrick Caracter
Graduated: David Padgett, Juan Palacios

They return an excellent backcourt- Williams, Smith, Sosa, and McGee- and Earl Clark returning is huge. They lose a lot more than UConn, but were better to begin with. The big question is whether incoming freshmen Samardo Samuels (#9 on the Rivals 150, an "automatic double/double guy") and Terrence Jennings (#18) can replace the production they are losing inside.

Georgetown (20:1)
Delcared for draft: Nobody
Graduated: Jonathan Wallace, Roy Hibbert, Patrick Ewing Jr.

Tough break for the Hoyas last week, as sophomore foward Vernon Macklin announced his intention to transfer. That's a big hit to their frontcourt, which was already going to struggle to replace Hibbert. A lot of Georgetown's success will depend on how good incoming freshman Greg Monroe (6'10", Rivals #8) is.


Pittsburgh (20:1)
Declared for draft: Nobody
Graduated: Ronald Ramon, Keith Benjamin, Mike Cook

Sam Young and DeJuan Blair will be very tough inside. The lack of guards may be a problem, with three of their top four graduating (Fields is the fourth). With a potentially dominant combo inside, they won't need the guards to be all-world, but there are some holes to fill. Pitt doesn't look to have any highly touted recruits coming in.

Notre Dame (40:1)
Declared for draft: Nobody
Graduated: Rob Kurz

Ugh. I'm still bitter. Kurz is a significant loss inside, but they still have Harangody and Hillesland. Combine them with McAlarney, Tory Jackson and Ryan Ayers on the perimeter, and they might even win a road game. Seriously though, that is a very solid starting five. I just don't know if I can deal with another year of Harangody and Hansbrough being on ESPN three nights a week.

I won't give them their own paragraph, but if McNeal withdraws from the draft, Marquette will be a contender. The same is true for Donte Greene and Syracuse, although it seems unlikely that he would return.

At this point in the year, it usually seems like the quality of play is going to be down, since most of the guys we are familiar with are either graduating or heading to the NBA. With every other conference, I think this holds true, but not with the Big East, which looks to be the strongest conference heading into the upcoming season.

7 comments:

DCThrowback said...

Tough break? Macklin was a liability. Any Hoyas fan worth his salt know that Macklin struggled mightily with running the intracacies of the Princeton offense (guy literally looked like he was thinking too much on the floor). Macklin is athletic and likes to run the floor...which rarely happened in the timing oriented offense JT3 had installed on the Hilltop. Macklin is the type of guy who, against inferior opposition, can put up big numbers (like against the small frontcourt of Davidson). But against bigger foes (like those of the Big East), Macklin was invisible. Furthermore, the guy was, at one point during the season, 6 for 32 from the line. Now there's someone who can not be on the floor the last 3 minutes of any close game, right?

This is addition by subtraction for the Hoyas. Macklin might the first McDonald's All-American to work at McDonald's after graduation.

moneyline said...

The BE is going to be incredible next year. It may become literally impossible to fairly seed everyone.

Vegas Watch said...

It's for that reason that I'm rethinking this UConn bet. 20:1 is only worth it if you think they're going to be a 1 seed, really. In any other conference I'd feel comfortable with that, but there's just so much competition here.

Aram said...

I'm surprised at no mention of West Virginia. Alexander declared, but may return and if he does, they should be right up there with any of these other BE teams. They also have some big time PF recruit coming in. Also, any word on where Macklin is going?

Vegas Watch said...

Yeah, I probably should have included them with Marquette/Syracuse- I just figured Alexander would leave. Seems like the time to cash in on his late season run. And if they lose him and Nichols (graduating), they won't be that good.

Is that Kevin Jones guy good? He's only 73rd on the Rivals list. I have no idea. This is why I hate recruiting.

I haven't see anything about where Macklin will end up.

rs27 said...

Pretty surprised no mention of Syracuse. They have the co BE rookie of the year and a preseason Big East 1st teamer coming back.

I guess a lot hinges on what Donte Green eveetually does, but even if he stays in the draft, I think Syracuse could crack the top 5 of this conference. Gtown loses arguably their 3 best players.

Scott Isaacs said...

Syracuse losing Donte Green may be for the best. He didn't play a lick of defense toward the end of the season, and settled for too many threes.

They get a healthy (and experienced) Eric Devendorf back, along with a bulked up Andy Rautins to replace Green's offense.

Throw in returning starters Paul Harris, Arinze Onuaku, Jonny Flynn (the best of them all), and Kristof! and you've got a solid team.

Plus they are adding top 50 recruits Mookie Jones and Kris Joseph (look him up on YouTube)... Syracuse could be the surprise team in the Big East if Jim Boeheim remembers how to coach (and that's a big IF).

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